Items of Business

When did having your teeth cleaned get so painful? I used to consider it the dental equivalent of, say, a pedicure: fairly agreeable and innocuous maintenance, with perhaps even the hint of something indulgent and spa-like about it, merely by dint of the fact that it wasn't, you know a root canal or anything. I actually used to think of a cleaning appointment almost like a fake dentist's appointment, in fact, because sure, you still wrote "dentist 9am" on your calendar but you didn't actually have to worry about it: you just showed up, lay back, and let someone do the dirty work for you while gently lecturing you about flossing more.

Well, sweet mother of pearl, that's all changed: I got my teeth cleaned yesterday and it was TORTURE, what with the scraping and the picking and the whining of the scraper-picker machine. Add to that the fact that I wasn't offered the private headphones this time and instead had to listen to tinny R&B being piped in through the overhead speakers and I felt like I was trapped in a tiny little hell of my own creation, a really personalized hell where someone hovered over me sticking sharp pointy things into my soft gums while an endless Boyz II Men loop played in the background.

It was made even more awkward, in fact, by the dental hygienist mistaking me for someone else---I'd never seen this particular woman before---and asking me all sorts of questions I had no answers for, and you just try making things up on the fly while lying prone with your mouth prized open, only able to summon up one-syllable responses every few seconds. After a while, I think she realized her mistake but it was too late then and we had to keep up our awkward charade of pretending we knew each other. By the way, did you know I'm a ballet dancer who recently chopped all her hair off? I am at my dentist's office!

In other news, I think it's becoming painfully obvious that I need a new computer, and I think this for the following reasons: not only have I had to replace both the battery and the power cord for my iBook G4---purchased in early January 2005, so getting on a bit now, though really, is a three and half year old computer really such an antiquated model?---but now the battery just FALLS OUT when it feels like it, and this is usually at a very unopportune time, like when I haven't saved my work in four hours.

Add to this the fact that both the screen and the keyboard are slowly coming away from the body of the computer, the whole thing doesn't power down properly and just has to be forced off, and the Internet sometimes looks really screwy for no reason, and I'm thinking that it might be time for a new investment, especially since I am now the proud owner of one of those hilarious STIMULUS checks, which could probably go a long way towards it. (Speaking of those STIMULUS checks---and really, there's no way you can't capitalize STIMULUS, is there? I mean, come on---I met someone the other day who had made it her sole mission to spend her STIMULUS check in a way that would piss Bush off the most. I think she sent it to the Obama campaign.)

Anyway, though, my question is this: Macbook, Macbook Pro, or Macbook Air? (I'm afraid I'm not even entertaining the idea of a PC, so deep have I already drunk from the well of Steve Jobs' Kool-Aid. Mmm, Apple Kool-Aid, sounds tangy.) Do you have one of those and like it more than the other? I'm leaning heavily towards the Macbook just because it's, uh, cheaper, but it's only 13 inches and I am used to my 15-inch screen. Also, I prefer it in white, but the computer I have now is white, and....well, let's just say it used to be white and it's now more of a sludgy gray. Is there some sort of dorky yet unobtrusive cover you can buy to keep a white computer clean, without looking like one of those people who covers their sofa in plastic wrap when the grandkids come over with their poopy diapers and popsicles? I'd like one of those, please.

Finally---switching gears abruptly---may I point your attention towards Gawker's poll for the Hottest Guy In Book Publishing? My friend Nathan is currently coming in second, and I really think we need to harness our collective power and push him into first place, edging out this Matt Hilliard chap, whoever he may be. Nathan is in the orange shirt, so go and vote for him, if only for the fact that when his fiancee---my lovely friend Alison---discovered the story on Gawker, she sent me an email with the subject line "HOLY SHIT BALLS." This---together with the fact that "Voted Gawker's Hottest Guy In Publishing 2008" would be a seriously awesome bullet for a resume (don't you think?)---should compel you to go forth and vote for Nathan, as many times as you are able to. Why, this year is just packed full of important elections, isn't it? What excitement! What fun!

Jun 18, 2008

I'm not a mac user (more's the pity!) but I'd go for the pro.

And I dutifully voted for Nathan...who is very attractive.

Jun 18, 2008

I have a Macbook and LOVE it. A friend of mine recently bought a Macbook Pro and commented about how hot the bottom gets. But, if you need more space (or you don't work on your computer from your lap), the Pro might be the way to go.
Don't even mess around with the Air. Not enough space to bother, I say.

Jun 18, 2008

The Macbook air is cute, but I'm not a fan of buying the first generation of anything, because there could be issues that haven't been discovered yet. Plus, I've felt it up about a thousand times and though it's delightfully light and airy, it feels like it's about to break, such is its fragility. I don't know about you, but I like a computer that doesn't feel like it's about to split in two if I accidentally bang my elbow on it.

As for the Macbook, yes, there are covers for it. Adam has one -- it's clear, and it kind of works like an iPod skin. It also dulls the sharp edges on the side of the keyboard that slices up his arms (and the arms of many a Macbook user).

Also, I don't think you need the power of a Macbook Pro, so I'm not sure the money would be justified -- in fact, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't. Adam is a technology executive who does all kinds of techie-type stuff on his, and even he decided against the Pro, as he's not a programmer anymore and doesn't need it.

Nothing But Bonfires
Jun 18, 2008

Jonniker, Sean says the same thing. He said "You don't need a Macbook Pro because you're not a pro." Point taken, darling, thank you.

Jun 18, 2008

My vote goes for the Macbook as well. I have one and absolutely love it, and my friend Mary has one as well, with a clear cover (sounds just like Jonniker's husband's) and it isn't dorky and her MB always looks a lot...well...more sanitary than mine :)

Also when I first typed "Macbook" I accidentally typed "Macboob", and I would like to change my endorsement, officially, to that.

Jun 18, 2008

I have a MacBook and love it. It's over two years old, and still mostly white. I know they do make colored skins for them; my friend has purple. Anyway, it's been a great computer so far, and does everything that I need it to do.

My husband, who is a web designer, has the Pro, and that thing is heavy! The Air just seems a little flimsy to me.

There is a medium-grade MacBook that is black. My niece got one for high school graduation, and I think it comes with some better software and maybe a faster processor than the MacBook, but for maybe $100 more.

Good luck with your computer purchase. I am sure you'll make the right decision for you.

Jun 18, 2008

My parents did the same thing with their stimumlus checks- donated it all to the Democratic National Committee.

Jun 18, 2008

Thanks, Holly! Also I vote for Air, because after lugging a heavy laptop everywhere and killing my shoulder I resolved to go light with my next computer.

Jun 18, 2008

I have a strange aversion to laptops, so no help there. I'm scared to have a computer one of my kids might pick up and drop on the floor or on the dog or in the bathtub or what have you.

You need to come to So Cal and get your teeth done. Honestly, we wouldn't put up with that "no headphones" crap down here. We get not only headphones, but movies on DVD and dental personnel who have the grace to shut up, work on your teeth and let you watch your movie already. Next time bring your iPod, at least.

Jun 18, 2008

STIMULUS check...bah! I used part of my check to get a facial, which I thought was funny cause, ya know, it's what we've been figuratively getting from the Bush administration for years, so I might as well get the real thing.

Jun 18, 2008

Would you believe I JUST returned home from the (only) apple store here in Brussels to answer the SAME question, then walked in the door and read your blog (well, that and email)? And that we have the same iBook G4? Mine has worse problems: the hard drive totally crashed last week and I lost everything (although people are telling me to keep my hopes up, it might be recoverable...) So I'm in the market for a new one, and I have the same debate about color, size, etc. I'm actually at this moment (who knows if it'll last) leaning towards the black MacBook, because it has more...stuff. But isn't so huge as the Pro. Nor am I a Pro.

Jun 18, 2008

It really depends on your price range, and what you want to do with the computer. If all you do is surf the internet and do word processing, and the like, go with the macbook. If you want to do heavier stuff like record music, make home movies, use photoshop, etc. You can still go with the macbook, but the pro will be a lot faster. Don't even bother with the air unless you really care that much about your laptop being tiny.

Anne in SC
Jun 18, 2008

First - Just voted for Nathan! Cute AND with a Piggly Wiggly shirt on too! I'm glad to see that the guy pulling sympathy votes with the kitten isn't in the top two. I will try to vote again later - it wouldn't let me do two in a row.

Second - showing my age here, I have a PC (DELL) and can't help with the laptop issue. I know nothing about Macs. Except that the Mac guy on PC gets my vote over the PC guy all day long. The only thing I can offer is that if you are used to a larger screen, you will hate not having the whole screen displayed at the same time. Of course, you can adjust the pixels, but then you may need to get some readers and start showing your age - ha.

Third (all in reverse order of your post) - YOU HAVE GOT TO GET ANOTHER DENTIST (or hygienist). Getting teeth cleaned SHOULD NOT hurt. And I didn't realize this until my current dentist and her hygienists started cleaning my teeth some 10 years ago. If you are getting hurt - someone is not doing his/her job correctly. I promise! And you are correct, done properly, a good cleaning should feel like a spa treatment for you mouth. I would go every month if I could afford it.

Jun 18, 2008

I have a Macbook (that I used to replace my iBook G4 from January 2005!) and my husband has a Macbook Pro and honestly, I like my Macbook better. But, if I had the money, I'd probably go for a Macbook Air just for the novelty of it. Let us know which one you choose!

Jun 18, 2008

Well, I'm supposed to be a geek so I suppose I should weigh in on the Mac* issue, but I actually just wanted to say YES, I CONCUR with several exclamation points that at some point in the last couple years, going to the dentist has become hell, and I don't know whether its the hygienist doing a hack job or what she says is some correlation between it being that-time-of-the-month and extra-sensitive gums. I don't trust this theory.

* Fine, I'll weigh in: The current MacBook is newer than the MacBook Pro, which is overdue for a refresh. The MacBook Air is adorable but not as powerful as most laptops out there, has some issues with the USB ports when the laptop is not at the edge of the desk and doesn't have a removable battery. In short, the Air will be great one day, but is not yet. Oh, and Mr. Clean's Magic Eraser works, well, Magic on my white MacBook.

Elizabeth Joy
Jun 18, 2008

Ah, yes, Nathan. Let me sing his praises:
A. He writes an awesome, generous blog to help writers navigate their way through the nightmare that is publishing,
B. His blog introduced me to your blog, which subsequently introduced me to CoverGirl Lipslick,
C. He is hot.

As for the tooth scraping, it’s partly sadistic, the dental assistant’s retribution to all of us who have a job that doesn’t involve plaque, tartar and blood, and also her attempt to get you to join the flossing cult. They’ll try to convince you that flossing will make your next session less painful. But believe me, I know from personal experience, six months flossing like I had tooth-OCD, that IT WILL NOT.

Jun 18, 2008

I vote MacBook. I've got one and I'm really happy with it. Amazon has a Speck MacBook 13" See-Thru Hard Case to keep your whites white, but it also comes in fun colors if you feel like spicing things up.

Jun 18, 2008

color me unsurprised that no one at my publishing house was nominated. wait? was that mean?

Jun 18, 2008

Oh goodness. When I went to leave this comment I FORGOT MY EMAIL ADDRESS. I think 18 is a little young to be so ooold.

In other news, I saw that Hottest Guy in Publishing thing and I think it is completely awesomely funny. I liked Nathan's post on it that said something like, "Thank you, uh... I think?"

Iver Jane
Jun 18, 2008

The Pro is a bit "beefy" unless you run a lot of apps. and do complicated things.

Jun 18, 2008


I am such a PC girl with MAC envy. But alas - no new computer for me just yet. Also - time for a new dentist. The no headphones thing is just wrong but a talking hygenist is the worst. How do they EVER expect you to answer when they have things shoved in your mouth.

jennifer in sf
Jun 18, 2008

Another vote for the Macbook and the Magic Eraser. Seriously they aren't kidding about the Magic. I've found the Macbook can handle everything I've ever needed it for.

Why didn't anyone tell me there were so many hot guys in publishing?

Jun 18, 2008

I vote Macbook. We bought my mother one for Christmas and each time I visit I want to tuck it into my suitcase to replace my iBook. Which while it still works fine 90% (although with screwy internet crap too) and looks neat and clean, the Macbook is just so shiny and new. Macbook, come to me. I love you.

Jun 18, 2008

So sorry.... I was totally going to vote for your Mr Nathan but, when I checked out the Uber hot Matt Hilliard, I could not resist..... he is one super yummy hunk-cicle!!!
I am thinking forget psychology.... i need to go back to my dream of being in publishing!!! hubba hubba!

Brother Tom
Jun 18, 2008


I had exactly the same issue about 3 months ago. MacBok or MacBook Pro. I was nearly tempted to go for the pro purely because it had that funky mousepad which you can use like an iphone. In the end I went for the white macbook (not the cheapest one, but the one just below the black one). It seems to work perfectly well. I have even started putting together a few DVDs recorded on my camera and it doesnt seem to cause too many probs....


Jun 18, 2008

MacBook. You don't need to do all the heavy-duty crap that the Pro is intended for. Save your money. Also, someone else mentioned it, but I'll second this: Mr. Clean Magic Eraser is great for the white MacBook.

Also, I didn't get a stimulus check, but love the idea of using it to piss off our "leader." It's hard to complain because it means you earned too much last year...except...since then, I've taken a different gig. I make half of last year's salary. I could use that damned check. (I also only work part-time now, so I can't complain, again, really, but still do.)

Camels & Chocolate
Jun 18, 2008

Oh my God, Holly, I got my teeth cleaned yesterday, too, and was thinking the same thing!!! I was so afraid my teeth were going to break off that I flinched every time she took the "scalpel" to my incisors! It was a terrifying feeling -- I did not go through two sets of braces, gum surgery, two root canals, multiple fillings and a set of veneers only to go all toothless, ya know? And right before that, I had my second in the Gardasil shot series, which is the equivalent of squeezing peanut butter through a hole the size of your pore into your veins. THEN, I got a Brazilian wax, and wow was that not the most fun experience ever. (On a completely different note reverting back to teeth: I've never really thought of this but you have absolutely perfect teeth AND you're did that happen? And don't even say that's just a stereotype, because I lived in the UK, after all, and most of my friends had snaggle teeth that made Jewel's look perfect. Is it because you grew up a child of the world? Oh wait, I seem to recall you had I right?)

I love love love my MacBook, aside from the recent hard drive failure...I was told the MacBook Pro is for people who are more into graphic design and video editing. And while I ADORE the Air, it has no disk drive, and as much travel as we do, if you want to watch movies on it, you simply can't. Also, I don't think it has nearly the storage the others do.

And go Nathan!!!

Jun 18, 2008

I am sorry you had to endure BOYZIIMEN, at the dentist no less. But I'm even more sorry that I am now stuck with a song of theirs in my head reminding me of "school discos" at my english boarding school. ack.
Funny that Sean said you should get a macbook, because you are not a pro, as I told you, my husband Lu said the same thing! So now of course I am all for macbooks, for the sake of democracy! And also, can someone enlighten the Eurogirl here as to what a STIMULUS check is? it sounds rather frisky...

Jun 18, 2008

The lack of optical drive in the Macbook Air really bothers me - not to mention the intense fear that the darn thing would just split in half as soon as my fiance's stabby typing skills came into contact with it.

I have a Powerbook G4 that I am about to replace (mine is from March of 2004 - it's practically an antique!) and I am also debating between the Macbook and Macbook Pro. Regardless of which one you choose, I wanted to give you a little tip - go to, and search for the term "refurbished". At the top of the page should be a box with a red "SAVE" tag on the left, and at the bottom of that box is a link to mac computers that have been refurbished, and are about 30% cheaper than their brand-new counterparts. I know that many people are weirded out by the idea of a refurbished computer - that it's used, and old, and probably going to conk out tomorrow. Please believe me when I say that if I set a refurbished mac and a brand new mac in front of you, you would NEVER be able to tell the difference. NEVER. Apple fully refurbishes them (all parts, casings, screen, everything), and you get the same warranty and everything, you just save a bunch of cash. I grew up in a mac family, and I now work for my parents in their mac-only business, and we have bought 50+ refurbished computers in the last 5 years (iMacs, eMacs, MacBook Pros, Powerbooks, etc etc) and we have yet to have a single issue with any of them. My Powerbook G4 had to have the hard drive replaced, but at that point it was 3 years old (and it's the 12", so there's a lot of stuff packed into that tiny, hot little space, and the electronics don't hold up as long).

I cannot recommend more highly purchasing a refurb... it's literally exactly the same as buying brand new, I promise. Except you'll end up with a lot more money in your pocket, for really important things... like new shoes ;)

Jun 18, 2008

I, too, went to the dentist today. The dental hygienist was great - cheerful and talkative, yet not inane. She took my blood pressure and did a gland check of my neck and throat, which, apparently, are new assessments being implemented with all cleanings.

Then, the NEW dentist comes in, makes a comment about my handshake being strong for a female, told the hygienist he thinks I need a filling, asked me if I like my smile, and suggested that I fix my crooked tooth. I pretty much hate the new dentist.

Jun 18, 2008

I am desktop PC user- the lamest of the lame. But I so jealous of these damn stimulus checks. I am NOT getting one.

Jun 18, 2008

i know nothing about computers but i have two sense about what to do about the cover. make awesome, removable covers for apple products (ipods, laptops). they are original artists work that is licensed to the company. friends of mine work for them and it's an amazing product. the best thing about them is they're not too expensive and you can change them whenever you get tired of the art you've chosen.

Jun 18, 2008

CENTS not sense. good grief it's been a long day.

Abigail M Schilling
Jun 18, 2008

Echoing Christina on the refurb. You really can't tell the difference at all and you save enough money to buy cases in a variety of colors, which I highly recommend. The clear case can have that plastic-furniture-color feel, but the colors? So fun and you can mix and match so you have like a pink top with a white bottom or... you could even match your blog! Dreams can come true.

Jun 18, 2008

I've had Mac envy for a long time and when the last PC broke I finally switched and got the Macbook. I didn't love the idea of white and it has started to look a little less than shiny and new already, but I'll have to try the magic eraser! Oh and I thought getting used to the smaller screen would be tough, but hasn't really been an issue.

Jun 18, 2008

I work for the Apple Store and I have to say, the MacBook Air is for a very specific user. There is (max) 80 GB of storage with a 1.6 processor. If you go with the $1,299 white MacBook or the $1,499 black one (which has 250 GB HD as opposed to the 160 GB HD in the white one... but basically you pay more 'cause it's black) I think you'll be in good hands. The only reason I would ever tell someone to go with a Pro is if a) you're using Photoshop, Aperture, Logic, or some other "pro" application, or b) you just want the bigger screen or silver color.

You absolutely have to purchase .Mac ($30 off with the purchase of a computer!) because Apple is releasing MobileMe with the new iPhone and I couldn't be more stoked about all the features of it. AppleCare is a must, too. Oh, and there's $100 printer rebate and there's some pretty sweet free printers. Other than that whatever suits your fancy! If you're able, I'd book a Personal Shopping appointment at the nearest Apple Store and go on in because you get a better deal in the store than online.

Jun 18, 2008

You can buy sticker "skins" for everything now. I have one for my iPod that's amazing. (Even inside the Contour Showcase, because really, no "skin" can protect an iPod from the constant hurling it will experience under my ownership.) and have some sweet ones for laptops. Have fun making the rest of us jealous, you big jerk!

Jun 18, 2008

i'm with edger - i LOVE my 13" screen (iBook G4, holla! bought in august 2005). it does take a bit of adjustment for the first few days, but i love how compact it is. i just got a laptop for work (PC, booo), and it is huge and heavy and awful. i initially bought the 13" b/c i was a poor, cheap grad student, but i would seriously consider sticking with the small screen, even now that i'm not as poor (but, admittedly still cheap).

Jun 18, 2008
Jun 19, 2008

I've been a mac person since the very first ones in the 80's. That said, I've also been in creative arts for a part of my career, and have always had the fastest, largest hard drive, most memory, etc so that I don't spend time (billable hours, or sales hours) waiting for the dreaded spinning disc to finish what I've asked it to do.

My Titanium G4 died just about a year ago, and I was in the same position as you - MacBook, or MacBook Pro. (MacBook Air wasn't around yet). I went to the store and the new screens (back-lit LCD) were out on the MBP 15", and when I compared it to the older MBP17" screen, the 15" won, hands down. Then the only choice for me was between the Black MB, and the MBPro. I went with the Pro, and I have to say I've loved it. I spend hours on it each day, and I VERY VERY rarely wait for the disc to spin. I have more up time on this computer than I've had on any other Mac (including desktops) to date.

I have a clear Spec case for it so that it doesn't get scratched/dented like my titanium did. The only thing that I caution you about it that it does run hot. Like I wouldn't want to sit in on my bare legs for any period of time other than a few quick searches. (I talking shorts or skirt with leg sticking out.). But that is the only downside. The Spec case does help with the heat (in a barrier sense).

I'd prefer it if the power was on the back, or the right side, not the left - but that has to do with how I use it on an angle in bed (right now, even!).

To me, this computer was the replacement to what I'd finally used up, so it was a natural replacement. I wanted something that would be my computer for at least 18 months, and that could still be used for other non-daily tasks beyond that. I didn't want a throw-away at 18 months. We use my computer & the 20.00 adapter we bought to view movies and slide shows on our 47" LCD and it is fantastically easy to set up. I do it without having to resort to any help.

A world of caution? You can get the screens in "gloss" and while they seem sexy? The glare on them can be very distracting - I tried this out before purchasing. I went with the flat screen, and I have never regretted it for watching any video or reading any text. In fact, I mention how relieved I am that I didn't go glossy.

Guy Kawasaki is on twitter and he just mentioned to an inquiry about his MacBook Air the following: "Good and bad. Bad is the lack of ports and battery life. Good is thinness and weight." So take that for what it is worth.

Also, ask at your Apple store if they've had any returns. My store had open boxes that they were selling at a discount, that were reset to virgin installs. They told us that most of them were "regret" purchases, and that the people had upgraded for different features - that nothing was wrong.

Take a look at this link:

Happy Shopping!

Leigh Webber
Jun 19, 2008

And Nathan is wearing a Piggly Wiggly shirt in that shot, so he's definitely got my vote! :)

Jun 19, 2008

I have a 15" MacBook Pro for work (even though I am only pro at eating chocolate), and yes, it is on the heavy side and big. Not easy to stow in cute tote bags. I've also had my hands on a MacBook Air, and found it felt light and airy, but also very, very fragile.

I think if I were going to buy one for myself, I'd go with the MacBook. It's almost a half pound lighter than the MacBook Pro, 2" smaller, and as you mentioned, cheaper :)

Jun 19, 2008

just thought i'd chime in and be the 2394082th person to say MacBook! i love mine, i don't think you could wrong with it.

also - i just got a protective cover for mine that keeps it safe and also makes it look pretty cool...

the InCase covers are better quality/better aesthetically than the speck ones that others have mentioned.

just my two cents!

Jun 19, 2008

I have you back Holly, I voted for him a few days ago. But if I hadn't, "HOLY SHIT BALLS" would have been as much of an inducement if anything. That's brilliant.

My dentist has always been out for my head. They scrape and tug until I bleed, and then they give me the papers to file to insurance afterwards. Not a good look.

Jun 19, 2008

I also have an iBook G4 and I think I got mine around the same time you did. The battery was always falling out so I had to strap it down with duct tape. And that takes half the joy out of owning an Apple because Apples are supposed to be pretty.

Jun 20, 2008

OK, first I took a good look at all the nominees without knowing their names and decided who I thought really *was/is* hot. By a mile I picked the guy in the orange shirt. Then I went to dutifully cast my vote, at your behest, for Nathan. What are the odds... (well actually, Carroll, the odds are pretty obviously one out of however many guys are on that site, doh!) Woooo! Nathhan it is!!

Jun 20, 2008

Reading your description of your poor iBook, I was reminded of mine, which is the same "vintage." [Ugh. What a sentence. Sorry about that!] Anyway, my screen, battery, cord, the dinginess -- all of it -- is driving me to a new computer as well. The difference in price between the MacBook and the Pro is not that much when you trick out the MacBook (about $500). So I'm leaning toward the Pro, even though I may not exactly take advantage of its extra powers.

Speaking of teeth -- did you happen to catch the documentary on BBC America, "Britain's Worst Teeth?" It was horrifying. It made me feel better about any of my dental experiences, that's for sure!

A Novelist
Jun 21, 2008

I agree with you re: the dentist. I used to love going. Anymore, I am like a 75 year old women during my visits. The poking; the really hurts! And if I have to have any kind of dental procedure done (i.e. root canal or cavity filled), I go into a full fledge panic attack. I swear, the older I get, the worse I become.

When did it all change...?

Jun 21, 2008

You're speaking at BlogHer? Oh how I wish I was going, that would be SO awesome to meet you! You're just so cool!

I hate going to the dentist and even HATE the cleanings, oh the yucky scraping!

Aug 21, 2008

Hi Holly, I am curious which mac you chose. We are looking now and considering a refurbished one - although the discount doesn't seem so grand. Thoughts?